Florida - November 10, 2015

In attendance: Astrid, Frank, Gabe, Jackie, Jeff, Nelson and Santiago

 

Jackie read "Faith Moves Mountains," a selection from the Gospel at Home book.  Astrid told that group that her daughter had accepted a new job.  A spirit was present at the table who urged the daughter to be humble in her new environment and situation - as she will be tested.  "The seed is there," Astrid said, "and I put water on it all the time."  Nelson understood that the daughter now had a stronger spiritual belief than before, because she has seen a difference in her life.

 

Spirit 1 (via Nelson): Nelson sensed a group of black spirits.  They were from the present day, not the distant past, and they were flashing gang signs.  They spoke in slang terms (with "yo" and "hey") and all of them were armed.  Nelson described them as criminals with no remorse, and Jackie described them as street thugs.  They would not put their weapons down, but one gang member moved forward to speak.  Nelson realized that he died when his throat was cut:

Spirit: What goes down at this meeting?  We got to do what we got to do to get the respect, man.  (looked at Gabe's blue shoes) Yo, he's a bro.  We can hang.  Down the street, you understand, the wrong shoes, man, are not welcome.  (to Gabe)  What's happening, bro?  We don't understand why we are here.

Gabe: You are remembering what you lived.

Spirit: We don't have that anymore?

Gabe:  No.  Wasn't that it painful?

Astrid: You are not in that world any more.

Spirit: Sometimes you lose some battles, some friends.  So that's why he (Nelson) didn't understand us?  It's different here?

Gabe: Yes.  So you can leave all your guns behind.

Spirit: What will cure my throat, my pain.  Do you have you know, something?

Gabe: Let go of those memories, and the guns - the turf war.

Spirit: I got a 22, a 42, a rifle and some knives.  One is hidden in my shoes.

Gabe: Those caused you pain.

Spirit: Do I have to let the shoes go?  Your value is with the shoes.  What happens now?  We are not staying in the hood?

Gabe:  Some will go to a hospital.  It won't hurt.

Spirit: No bitches (women) right?  One of them was the one who cut me.

Jackie: Let that go and get better.  It's a hood hospital, so they will understand you.

Spirit:  We were always hiding.  On the move.  I only want my group in this hospital.  There were 29 of us.  I only agreed to talk to him (Gabe) because of those shoes.  That blue color, is it for peace?  They are erasing the star I had cut into my hair.  We were the stars.  How will they know me? 

Jackie: By your name.

 

(Note: Three different gangs use a star to brand the members - five point stars are used for the Bloods and a gang called People Nation, while a six point star is used by the Crips and the Black Disciples of Chicago.)

 

Spirit: They are showing me things.  We don't understand much, but I will trust you.  He (Gabe) has a trustful face.  Don't go into the hood with that face.  They are putting white on us (hospital gowns).  Tell this bro (Nelson) to go someplace to learn.

 

The spirit departed, and Nelson was shown more of his situation.  The spirit had been lying in bed with another woman when his girlfriend came in and slit his throat with an exacto knife.  The girlfriend held an elaborate memorial for him, and then she assumed control of his gang.  In the same house where he was killed, the girlfriend's throat was slit by the woman who had been in bed with the slain gang member. 

 

Spirits 2 & 3 (via Nelson): As the group was discussing what had just happened, Nelson said it was a strange day - as more spiritual gang members were lurking in the background.  One of them spoke from a position behind Nelson: "If you build that wall higher thinking it will protect you, it will only imprison you when we come.  We have no other opportunities.  You know the thing we hate the most?  The show-off's.  See that rich white kid, dressed nice in a big car?  And the white girl sitting next to him?  She will go down on you.  Skanky girls are easy.  We are revolutionary boys (a offshoot of the LA Crips gang) and we are angry at the world."

 

The spirit faded into the background.  A new spirit was emerging, and she was dressed in a cheerleading uniform with pom-poms.  Nelson saw her chugging alcohol from a tube while other students encouraged her to drink faster.  She died from alcohol poisoning, and her cheerleader pom-poms were placed in the casket with her.

Spirit:  What happened?  I don't understand it.  I passed out, I woke up.

Astrid: You had too much alcohol too fast.  Your body could not handle it.

Gabe: It was the wrong group of friends.

Spirit: So what happened to me?

Jackie: Do you remember going to a party?

Spirit: I passed out, it happened before...

Astrid: And you woke up here.  Your body has died but your soul lives on.

Spirit (sobbing): No, no, no.  I'm not dead!  Tell that lady not to say it (intense crying).  I am too young!  I have to finish school, get a job, have a kid, no, no, no!

Astrid: Let them show you your body.

Spirit: They showed me!  I don't like it.

Astrid: Your soul is alive and you will learn new things.

Spirit: That is really me?  I can't do the things I want?  Nobody told me I would die.  I did one yesterday!  I was there!  Nobody talked to me.  They couldn't hear me, and I yelled.  (the spirit noticed Gabe)  I've seen you, you were there!  You did it, too! 

Astrid: He stopped, and you did not.  (The spirit described Gabe speaking Spanish with a friend at UD, and although she thought it was Italian, she found it romantic.)  So I am here because you are going to help me?  I know you, you were there.  In one of the houses.  It was not a night.  I was in a box (a casket) and I don't understand so many things.  I'm so confused.  My mom and dad - they don't know - they were never told the truth.  "Natural causes" they put it.  My parents still cry.  I died lady, you were right.  But I'm alive, because I still remember.  (to Gabe)  I am here because of you.  I will remember my name one day and I will come back and tell it to you.  Thank you.  My mom is looking at a book (a photo album) and asking for reasons.  She says, 'I sent her to school and I never got her back.'  He's taking me to a university now, to finish my school - and they will teach me that language.  I'm feeling better.  I am alive and I'm living a life.  I'm alive...

 

The spirit left, and Nelson was given more information.  The cheerleader came from a wealthy family, and she was buried next to her grandmother in a cemetery with marble urns filled with fresh flowers.  Nelson described her as tiny and petite, with strawberry blond hair.  Nelson's spirit guide also told him that this was a "rescue mission," as she was surrounded by negative spirits who wanted to influence her decisions.

 

Spirit 4 (via Nelson):  Nelson was tired, so he asked his spirit guide to sit and refresh him:

 

Caballito (to Gabe):  They (the spirits) see his youth, and it enables me to bring them here.  That's your contribution to the group.  You are where you belong and doing what you should be doing.  Do not stop talking to your mother about this, about your progress, your learning, your growth.  She will give you the respect you hope for through this.  Look around, at everyone you know, and you will say, 'Wow - look at me, how different I am.' In a good way.  You haven't seen anything yet.  One day, you might be sitting where he (Nelson) is now.  Keep doing what you are doing, and I will take you on one of my trips - and you will realize who I am.  Be careful what you ask for.  Don't run when I show you, just walk.

Gabe: I know, only when I am ready.

Caballito:  That does not mean that you cannot be young and have a wonderful material life.  This is all about the learning, the growing, and what happened before.  Do not let anything shake your faith.  It's coming, they are going to try.  Tell them that you have a friend (Caballito) who will not allow them to interfere.  You are a good human being.  Don't change that, it's the basis of your happiness.  It's not the shoes.

Gabe: Thank you...

Caballito (for Jeff): Start finding a way for what you will do with all those notes.  Send me your ideas and I will let you know. 

For Nelson:  I had to sit and say a few words.  I make him happy.  Why is it so hard for others to understand him?  He is simple, and down to earth.

Jackie: We know him - materially and spiritually.

Caballito: That should be the title of the next book - Him and I!  I had something else for today, but he said he was tired and he was not going to do it.  I am taking 39 criminals away with me.  They are hard, and he will not let them sit.  (Note: Possibly the gang who appeared before the cheerleader spirit?)   If all of you are happy, then my heart is happy.

 

As Caballito moved away, Jackie said that while he was speaking, she was shown a pure, bright white cape being placed on Gabe's shoulders by a spirit.  Jackie closed with a prayer.

Florida - November 8, 2015

In attendance: Astrid, Frank, Gabe, Gloria, Jackie, Jeff, Nelson, and Santiago

 

Nelson's older brother (Junior) wanted to thank our group for the message regarding his health.  He had a complete physical, and one of his kidneys was not functioning as it should.  Both Astrid and Jackie saw the situation as "nothing serious."  Nelson advised Jackie to contact her niece again over her health situation.

 

Nelson was prompted to read a selection from Kardec's The Spirits Book on Possession.  "It is possible for one soul to find itself obsessed by another soul to such a point that it is paralyzed...but this domination is never established without the participation of the spirit who is subjected to it, either through his weakness or his free will." 

 

Spirit 1 (via Nelson):  In other words, no one has the control over what we do - or who we are - unless we allow it.  When Nelson was reading, he heard a spirit say, "I'm the one in control."  Nelson was shown a large chart that was being used to keep track of attendance at spiritual centers.  The spirit who spoke earlier decided to sit at our table - and he arrived laughing:

Spirit: We are the testers.  How many times have all of you failed the tests?  We like to test 'the spiritists' as you call yourselves.  A headache, some back pain - and you don't go.  (laughed)  All I do it test everyone at every open center.  So leave me alone to do my job.  I love my job.  What I don't like is any of you people.  We don't like what you do.  We are doing the reverse of what you do.  You roll them in.  We have to roll them out.  Don't tell me I am a spirit, because I know that.  I am only here because I failed at my job.  They are taking me to where I cannot harm anyone because I failed.  My group failed.  I understand it.  We have to go, but I wanted you to know what we do.  Do you know the one I wanted to hit the most?  (Nelson) He makes our job difficult.  Another group will take charge of that (attendance) board now.  I have some friends from each of you. I will remove 80, ten from each person, plus myself.

Astrid: Yes.  It's time to collect everything and go.

Spirit: He said to tell you I lied.  Add an extra 20 that I will take for the two others who are not here today (Rafael and Gregory).  Another test!  Keep your eyes open, you never know when one of us will come in...

 

The spirit departed abruptly, and Nelson stood up with his arms outstretched over the table.  After the table finished discussing the message, Nelson began to sense a new group of spirits who were with Gregory.  These spirits created a "circle of confusion" around him.  Nelson saw a black cloud that followed him, and it was filled with spiritual chatter and continuous conversations.  The black cloud was with him everywhere he went, and it affected Greg's physical and mental being.  The cloud occasionally emitted small bursts of lightning.  Gregory could sense that something is wrong, and he wanted out of it, but the confusing chatter would not allow him to identify the issue.  He wanted to ask for help, for the spirits would not let him.  Nelson heard him as he wondered, "Why do I feel this way?"  Nelson said that Gregory was a good person who wanted to please everyone and tried to do good - but Nelson also saw Greg on the sofa, ready to scream.

 

Spirit 2 (via Nelson):  It was as if Gregory did not want anyone to know that he needed help, but he was also worried that if he failed, there would not be anyone to help the people he loved.  Nelson was shown a heavy weight on top of Greg, similar to a full body without any bones.  This weighty presence was a symbol of an irate spirit:

Spirit: All I want is for him to be in a mental institution, with no mind.  Once he is that way, then we are alike and we can talk.  I come from a place where we all lie down on the ground with no mind.

Astrid: Why do you have to be like that?  Bring up your mind and open it.

Spirit: No, no mind.  Just my mouth open.  (Nelson laid down in the chair with his arms and legs extended)

Jackie: Are you told what to do? 

Spirit: No. I want him to suffer for what he did to me. 

Jackie: That was another time and place.

Spirit: I am not going to leave until I see him there.  You don't know what he did, pretending to be my friend, and then he put me where I am.  When I first got there, I knew who I was - I was not like this.  He drugged me, I was not like this (sobbing).  Until he knows what he did, I am not letting him alone.  You do not know what pain is until little by little, every day, you go into a space.  It took me a long time to find him, and he will never find happiness.

Astrid: Forgive him, that was many years ago. (Astrid was being shown an image of Sicily) 

Spirit (very emotional): He was like a brother to me, we were best friends.  then he betrayed me to keep the love of a woman who was mine.  He put me in this place and drugged me every day.  Every day.  No one will ever like him now because I will not allow anyone to get close (continuous crying) because it is too hard for me to forgive.  I asked him to kill me and stop the torture, but he told me that if he did, I would live on in her memory with love.  As long as I am crazy, she has her pity, but no love. 

Jackie: That is over.

Spirit: I died one minute at a time.  I begged him, 'Just do it, kill me.'

Jackie: They will take you to a place to rest and be at peace now.

Spirit: I am so tired.  Why couldn't I find her?

Astrid: When you rest and get well, you can find her.

Spirit: I have tortured him enough.  Let me tell you, don't trust anyone else with what belongs to you.  I don't want to think of him again - any more.  He can go to hell.  I'm done.  To hell, so I can be myself and think of me.  (to Gloria) They want me to tell you that I am sorry.

Marian: Me?

Spirit: Yes, I am sorry I harmed you.  I put a couple of things into place before I realized that my hate was harming others.  Some of your medications did not have the effect they were supposed to have...

Jackie: Take all that away with you.

Spirit: I am going to leave everyone alone with their own demons.  I have to start doing the right things.

Astrid: And you will progress...

Spirit: It's just me.  Only me.  I found myself again.  Call me Paul.  I didn't know my own name, and now I remember it.

 

After the spirit quietly departed, Nelson said he was taken to a lower dungeon that was hidden three floors under a castle.  There wasn't any light.

(Note: There was only one Sicilian castle with multiple dungeons - Castelbuono Castle ("Castle of good air").  Construction began in 1316 over the ruins of the ancient Byzantine town of Ypsigro.  The structure was divided into three floors: the first floor for the servants, with the essential services, the second for the nobility, with the sumptuous Cappella Palatina, and the third for the court and guests. There were multiple underground dungeons and a tunnel that led to the Church of San Francisco.)

 

 

Nelson knew that this spirit had been with Gregory since he was a teen, and this spirit was determined that Greg would never have a brother.  Jackie saw a spirit on the sofa telling Nelson that he was not a very good teacher, and this spirit was wondering why he and his group were there.  Gloria saw the spirit of Don Polo behind Nelson, as if he had brought the group of spirits with him to learn.

 

Spirit 3 (via Nelson):  A new spirit was presenting herself to Nelson.  She was sexy, but very possessive.  Nelson described her as a mulatto (biracial) with a dark complexion.  "When you poison someone," she said, "where does that poison go in your body?"  (to the kidneys) Referring to Junior, the spirit said, "I just pinched it a little," and the dialog continued: 

Spirit:  I take care of my hair, that's why it is so beautiful.  I do not like him (Nelson).

Astrid: What has he done to you?

Spirit: He is trying to stop me.  (the conversation switched to Spanish)  He is so full of himself, that man (Junior).  He has a little pain here (pointed to kidney on right side) and he hurts.  Chicken!  Go and run with the chickens!  I am running that house, and I kick out whoever goes over there.  They all run away.  That woman who was there, she ran away.

Astrid: Why do you do that?  Did he not give you what you wanted?

Spirit (very angry): Traitor!  Dog!  Bandit!  I run that place now, and I want him to fall down on the ground with his tongue hanging out (demonstrated).  He's a devil!  He led me on, when he knew he was embarrassed by my color.  Then he fell in love with someone else - white! - and he hid me away.  Well I am still around (laughed).  I gave him what he wanted - every night - and now nothing functions the same!  He thinks he is still so smooth.  He told me he loved me, but he never took me anywhere to show me off.  (whispering) I want him gone.  The house is already mine.  He made me feel like a second class citizen.  I want to kick him down that hill so he drowns in the river.  (looked at Gabe)  I will pay you $100 to do it!  I wanted him to be alone, and now he is.  (laughed)  Even his radio stops working!  (looked at Nelson)  This person I am talking through is okay.  He's not dark, but I cannot say he is white.  I'm only here because he showed up over there to get me and my three kids.  So I will go.  Me and my kids.  I will find a love for myself.

 

The group discussed the message, and Nelson thought it was related to Junior's second wife (who also has three children).

 

Spirit 4 (via Jackie):  Jackie saw a spirit standing behind Gabe with his hands over Gabe's ears.  He told Gabe, "Don't believe everything you hear." 

 

Spirits 5 & 6 (via Nelson):  Nelson's spirit guide was ushering in another group of spirits, and he was showing Nelson various armies from all over the world, prepared and ready for another war.  "Tell us where and when, and we will be there," one of the soldiers said.  Caballito explained that the war would be different.  It would be a battle in the spirit world between good and evil spirits.  The army spirit commented, "It's the only way we can grab more souls."  Nelson was shown a series of trenches being dug.  "It's not enough to stop it," Caballito told the group, "because at the end, it's all about who is right and wrong with religion."  Caballito showed Nelson two open books.  One was the Koran and the other was the Dead Sea Scrolls.  A third book was placed in the middle of the other two - The Spirits Book.  "Give them the book of Spirits and remove the other two books," Caballito said, "as it is the only book working not to have war."  Nelson saw more soldiers arriving.  The spirit of one military man stepped forward to sit through Nelson: 

Spirit: We like all the toys (the weapons).  We like the remotes.  Click!  We don't even need to be there for the explosion.  Click! 

Gabe: Stop playing with those toys.

Jackie: When will you stop it and let us be at peace?

Astrid: Stop fighting yourselves.  Peace comes from inside, and you can make that decision.

Spirit: We have to follow orders!  We cannot disobey.  Don't you know that?

Jackie: New orders are coming in.

Spirit:  It's strict!  Ask that lady over there (Gloria's husband was a military man).  She was married to one of us, she knows.  We receive orders and we obey. 

Jeff:  There are new people now and new assignments for everyone. 

Spirit: Well, we are tired of fighting.  What we want is to put our arms down once and for all, and today they said we could do that.  New orders.  To all, war is over.  There are lots of us, from everywhere.  So many different languages, and I cannot understand them all.  We are getting disarmed.  We have been at war for a long time, some longer than others.  Look at that, they have pretty ladies working here.  They will let the units go together, the soldiers with their wives, girlfriends, whatever. 

Jackie: You will all learn the same lesson - peace. 

Spirit: There are 89 Koreans, 37 from Poland, 45 Hispanics, and 69 of us (English-American).  My group will go to a different place because we are not injured.  We will go to a school. 

Jackie: Like a college. 

Spirit: I like that.  Those are the groups and now it is my time.  I want to be at peace. 

 

Spirit 7 (via Nelson): The army spirits had gone, but there was another group lingering in the background, and they had a message for Gloria.  They were Philippine soldiers from this lifetime, and they wanted to say a big thank you to her.  Two days ago, Gloria received a Coast Guard magazine, and she was looking at the obituaries to see who died.  These soldiers realized how much she cared about them and one of the deceased soldiers spoke to Gloria in Spanish and English: 

Spirit: I remembered that you were always kind.  Very kind.  You have a son who looks like us.  So many memories in the kitchen with you, when I was there with you and your husband.  I wanted you to be acknowledged because with you, we were never forgotten.  Thank you.

Gloria: I enjoyed your company, you were my family.

 

Nelson described the spirits as very humble and sweet.  He was told that 22 of them would be taken away.  One spirit wanted Nelson to ask Gloria about the significance of a flower, and Gloria shared the story of a soldier named John.  His wife committed suicide, and she left behind two daughters.  One of them had the name of a Puerto Rican flower, "Corvalita".  John had hoped that Gloria would adopt the child, but both sisters were sent to the Philippines to live with other family members.  The spirit wanted to thank Gloria for all her kindness.  He said, "Those moments are the things we take with us when we are over there (in the spirit world)."

 

Nelson's spirit guide wanted him to ask our group something before we closed:  "Has everyone here learned something?  That's what matters.  So put it into practice."  Jackie closed with a prayer.

Chicago - October 18, 2015

Chicago - October 11, 2015

Florida - November 4, 2015

In attendance: Astrid, Frank, Jackie, Jeff, Nelson and Santiago

 

We discussed a topic from the Sunday session - the possibility of revisions to the Kardec books and an update of spiritism in general.  Nelson shared the thoughts of Mary and Etel (from Argentina) with the group.  After the opening prayer, Jackie was prompted to read a selection form Kardec's The Spirits Book entitled, "False Prophets of the Spirit World."

 

Nelson asked about the condition of John (the husband of Gloria's daughter), and Santiago said that he continues to improve.  He is apprehensive over anyone seeing him in his current condition; yet he goes to the door to greet any visitors.  It's his way to still control who goes in or comes out.  Nelson said there was a spirit asking for him:

Jackie: And it's not nice.

Astrid: They are waiting for him.

Jackie: I heard one say that they are glad he is suffering.

Jeff: Maybe they are deliberately giving him a false sense of hope?
Nelson (or his spirit guide): You can only hope when your conscious is free, and his is not.

 

Spirit 1 (via Nelson):  Astrid sensed some emotional turmoil with Gregory (the stepson of John), and Nelson agreed.  He was not suicidal, but he was involved in things that he should not.  A spirit was moving forward to speak.  He disliked what Jackie read, and Nelson described him as, "large and in charge."  Addressing Jackie, he wanted to prove that she had been fooled by a false prophet.  Referencing Yvonne, he said, "You had one that fooled you.  She does a good job talking, and to the untrained eye, she can fool anyone."  The spirit presented himself as an intelligent, authoritative presence as he sat through Nelson:

Spirit: Everyone loves my words!  And they do not question them.  If you don't obey, you don't come back.  Bring that boy to me (Gregory) and I will give him power!

Astrid: We don't know who you are...

Spirit: I know who I am, what I am, and I am very good at what I do. 

Jackie: Why do enjoy fooling them?

Spirit: I like for them to think that they have power (laughed).

Jeff: You think you have power...

Spirit: I do have power - the power to fool.

Astrid: It's not the right thing to do...

Spirit (laughing): I give them a little of my medicine, as I call it, and they think they can call God - Fools!

Jackie: Aren't you tired of that?

Spirit: That's why I'm here today.  They told me I could do better instead of acting like a fool.  He told me this was the last day.  It's so easy to fool them.  I tried to fool that guy today (Nelson)...

Jackie: Why didn't it work?

Spirit: He asked too many questions!  He is smarter than I thought.  He told me he was going to do the biggest favor for me today...you know we go everywhere.

Jackie: It's time to move on.

Spirit (sighed): I have to confront reality and I don't like it.  She (Yvonne) liked me!  I told her I was the professor (laughed).  They gave us the power, we got it from them!  And I don't get any power from any of you, so I will go.  There are 39, and with me it is 40...

 

The spirit was disgusted as he was being shown the hurt he had caused others.  He saw a large vehicle arriving, and his spiritual friends slowly began to climb in.  He was reluctant to leave, and when it was his turn to board, he left our table repeating, "I don't want to go I don't want to go I don't want to go." 

 

Nelson sensed that Yvonne was still not okay.  There was someone running her group from the spirit side.  We removed one group, but there were others.  Nelson saw the spirit of a tall, white haired man, standing between Astrid and Frank.  Nelson sensed that Yvonne was performing "healings", and he saw her in a confrontation with a short white haired woman.  There would be another confrontation between the two women, and it would not end well.  Nelson envisioned the police arriving to resolve it.  The spirit of the tall man was smacking the short woman (Myrna) in an attempt to make her listen.  Jackie realized that the spirit was Myrna's deceased husband, Joe. 

 

Spirit 2 (via Nelson):  As soon as Jackie said his name, Joe decided to speak.  He did not want to sit, so he spoke to Nelson from his position across the table:

Spirit (to Nelson):  I heard what you can do.  I have seen you over there (at Yvonne's).  I always told her it was pretending - hocus pocus - over there.  I am so aggravated over what is being done to her (Myrna, who was still in the material world).  They say she has dementia.  If she takes that water they give her, it may be drugged.  I heard a conversation - they want to put her to sleep!  I know Jackie will tell the truth, I know it.  They are harming her.  I will not sit, because I will not leave her.  I am in good shape, but I know that if I sit there, I will have to go.  (Nelson saw the spirit of Myrna's mother with him)  I know I am a spirit.  I wanted to talk to Jackie because I always respected her.  I will return to sit, but not until Myrna is safe...

Jackie: If I promise to help her, will you move on?

Spirit: Did she get to you with her hocus pocus?  I am the only one to protect her (Myrna) now, and I am willing to wait.  Yes, I will wait.  Thank him (Nelson) for me.  At the end of my life, everyone told me it was time to go, move on, it's time.  Don't do that.  It has to happen when it should happen.  I only left because my body kicked me out - it failed.

 

The group discussed how powerful love could be - transcending death and continuing on.  Jackie said she would phone Myrna, and Nelson said that he would email Gregory and invite him to a session.  Nelson knew that Gregory did not like himself, and he was apprehensive over what the mediums might see if he did attend a session.  Nelson's spirit guide read Santiago's thoughts, and he knew Santiago was also hoping that Gregorywould attend.

 

Nelson shared a dream he had over a tax client (Mike Harper) who passed away two years ago.  Nelson kept hearing his name in the dream, and he wanted Mike to know that he was welcome to speak at our table.  Jackie saw his spirit standing up, but he relied on the support of two male spirits standing next to him - and he was not in any condition to speak.  He was in very rough shape.  Jackie believed that it was the thoughts from his surviving family who caused Nelson's dream and helped bring Mike to our table.  Nelson's spirit guide said, "You don't know how the work will be completed, until is it completed." 

 

Caballito also said that he would remove the spirits of twelve "nice ladies," as we did not have time for them to sit.  We understood that "nice ladies" was a euphemism for ladies of ill repute.  Caballito said, "We don't know what we have done - so don't be ashamed."  Jackie closed with a prayer.