(Note: These notes were authored by Gabe. Our center was vandalized by
what appeared to be gang members - or made to look like a gang, and there was a
lot of clean up involved)
Table:
Denise, Carmen, Sonia, Marisol, Gabe
Attending:
Janet, Jose, Bernardo, Isaac, X, Isabel, Ron, Don Juan, Emiliano, Esperanza,
Milagros
Opening
prayer and prayers for the enemies of spiritism
-Carmen
to Sonia: Don't get so worked up about material things.
-Good
spirits did not allow/give them permission to do anything (saddened) about this
incident.
-THIS
WAS SENT.
-This
was done to close it.
-Sonia
took this personally (felt a pass during prayer)
-Carmen/Emiliano
dreamt of it...
-There
is someone (a female) who is working with the children of the board
members
-Battle
for church/temple (power/money)
-One
looking for peace, one is looking for power.
-Carmen
saw two spirit groups (one good, one bad, and the bad one did not want
to talk)
-That
one that uses "her," the woman trying to remove our group from the space
Spirit
#1 via Carmen
-Untie
me, untie me...
-I
wanna knock you down (to Sonia)...
-Let
me go...
-She
has to let go of that key...
-Why
don't you wanna let it go??
-We
hitting her from all angles, were gonna hit again...
-Everything
you are told, you interpret it differently.
Marisol:
But what do you get from this?
-I
win respect, I tried doing good, but I was offered better things on the other
side (as a hitman)
Marisol:
Nothing else is going to happen here.
-I
came in, when you were not careful. I hear other conversations and they offer me
things.
-Why
don't you give up?
-If
they would let me go, release me, you wouldn't last 30 minutes!
-My
head is exploding (I'm dizzy)
-This
group (his bad group) keeps insisting that I do my work.
-Their
offer was too good..
Marisol:
Yes, but we offered you love and peace.
-What's
that? I'm so tired, all this pulling and twisting
-They're
opening their arms to me?
-They're
untying me and giving me a hug. They're taking me somewhere else..
-I
can no longer do harm to people, that didn't do anything..
-I'm
sorry, listen to the advice...I'm gonna remove my energy off of this place
-I'm
gonna prepare myself to work differently. I was about being negative, and
ruining everyone's week.
-How
blind was I? I'm gonna learn to help you, because this is
wonderful/different...Goodbye
Spirit
#2 via Carmen (her guide)
-Cleaning
the whole place, keep doing the good work
-Don't
be frightened, we are here...
Spirit
#3 via Sonia (her guide)
-You
are never alone, that protection will always be here.
-Peace
to everybody, we will never abandon you
-We
work correctly, and with love...and we expect the same.
-Come
together, to be stronger...appreciate being here once again...I wish you love
and peace.
Marisol/Carmen sensed
something for Jose (his grandma - who he basically grew up with)
-It
turns out Jose that sees a lot (even though he stated he's not afraid)
Message:
-You
consider yourself a good man, well that's shown with actions
-I
came here to give a message. You don't decide if I can give it or not, as the
message is not just for you
-If
you want to be good, give the message and help them. If you don't, you will
confuse yourself and do harm to you and to them.
Marisol
sensed a female spirit with OCD (Note:
Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder
is a common, chronic and long-lasting disorder in which a peron has
uncontrollable, or recurring thoughts [obsessions] and behaviors [compulsions]
that he or she feels the urge to repeat over and over. These symptoms can
interfere with all aspects of life, such as work, school, or personal
relationships.) The person Marisol was envisioning was someone
who never finished anything.
Spirit
#4 via Marisol (with Denise, for her niece Lisa)
-Where
do I start?
-Nothing
I do is right.
-Maybe
I shouldn't do anything? She (pointed to Denise) doesn't like what I
do.
-When
she tells me do things, I just go to my room. It's scary in the world.
Sonia:
Think positive.
-I'm
positive that I'm staying in my room.
-They
(the spirit guides) are telling me I will be able to complete some things. But
what about her (Lisa)?
Denise:
She's not alone.
-Tell
her not to be so scared. OK, I'm going. After the attempt, she's been afraid of
everything (taking the bus, etc.) Goodbye.
Carmen
saw a black spot in an arm (linked to Isabel's daughter). Isabel will tell her
daughter to get a mammogram (Isabel's mom died of breast cancer)
Marisol
to Gabe: Advise your sister on how you handled the situations with your mom
throughout college, or how it should best be handled.
Closing
prayer
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